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[anti-conan]

It might be round, yes.

But have you ever heard of Columbus? He wanted to see if the Earth was sphere shaped, like some heretics claimed, so he set forth to sail to he either reached the edge, or found the way around to Asia.

And as you should know, he never reached Asia, and thus it was not proven that the earth is spherical.

So the most logical conclusion, so far, must be that the Earth is flat because things fall down, and if the earth was round, all people in the periferi of Earth would walk sideways, and they do not, as proven by Columbus.

[Snake of Christ]

Maybe the answer to this dilemma isn't as simple as saying Earth has just one absolute shape. My opinion is that the Earth can exhibit properties of both roundness and of flatness, just like light and matter can exhibit properties of both waves and of particles in quantum mechanics. Makes sense, doesn't it?

[Follower of NP]

Looks round to me.

That's not EARTH! Earth could not possibly fit inside these threads. It's much larger than threads!    

[I am a banana!]

Do I have to make everything I say or do so a four year old can understand?  A digital photograph is like a painting but instead of a person putting colorful stuff called paint onto a sheet of paper, a little box called a camera can see something and put exactly what it sees onto a computer.  A camera was on a flying machine that flew high into the air and took a picture.  Should I dumb it down some more?  

[Snake of Christ]

It's not Earth, it's a picture of a cloud.

[Follower of NP]

Do I have to make everything I say or do so a four year old can understand?  A digital photograph is like a painting but instead of a person putting colorful stuff called paint onto a sheet of paper, a little box called a camera can see something and put exactly what it sees onto a computer.  A camera was on a flying machine that flew high into the air and took a picture.  Should I dumb it down some more?

This is not about putting something in a SIMPLE form. This is about facts.

For example, if you look at a circle far far away it looks like a dot. But when you come closer you realise it was a circle. So if you take picture of earth far far away, of course it looks round - but if you come closer... you realise there are mountains, hills, canyons etc. which ARE NOT IN ROUND FORM - they are pointy or something else. But earth definitely is NOT round.

Just keep it with the facts. And don't bring any more cloud pictures here, okay?

[deathlord12345]

Do I have to make everything I say or do so a four year old can understand?  A digital photograph is like a painting but instead of a person putting colorful stuff called paint onto a sheet of paper, a little box called a camera can see something and put exactly what it sees onto a computer.  A camera was on a flying machine that flew high into the air and took a picture.  Should I dumb it down some more?

This is not about putting something in a SIMPLE form. This is about facts.

For example, if you look at a circle far far away it looks like a dot. But when you come closer you realise it was a circle. So if you take picture of earth far far away, of course it looks round - but if you come closer... you realise there are mountains, hills, canyons etc. which ARE NOT IN ROUND FORM - they are pointy or something else. But earth definitely is NOT round.

Just keep it with the facts. And don't bring any more cloud pictures here, okay?

unfortunately, you do have a point. but when u realise that, you must realise this, when you take a slice out of the earth, there is a perfectly (more or less) spherical shape in the core of the earth. so if you do examine the metaphorical dot and find it to be a circle, you must look into it more and find it more squarey, because the drawer of the dot is inexact. even if they DO use a compass- a circle has infite corners, so in theory, the circle is not round...

[Follower of NP]

Do I have to make everything I say or do so a four year old can understand?  A digital photograph is like a painting but instead of a person putting colorful stuff called paint onto a sheet of paper, a little box called a camera can see something and put exactly what it sees onto a computer.  A camera was on a flying machine that flew high into the air and took a picture.  Should I dumb it down some more?

This is not about putting something in a SIMPLE form. This is about facts.

For example, if you look at a circle far far away it looks like a dot. But when you come closer you realise it was a circle. So if you take picture of earth far far away, of course it looks round - but if you come closer... you realise there are mountains, hills, canyons etc. which ARE NOT IN ROUND FORM - they are pointy or something else. But earth definitely is NOT round.

Just keep it with the facts. And don't bring any more cloud pictures here, okay?

unfortunately, you do have a point. but when u realise that, you must realise this, when you take a slice out of the earth, there is a perfectly (more or less) spherical shape in the core of the earth. so if you do examine the metaphorical dot and find it to be a circle, you must look into it more and find it more squarey, because the drawer of the dot is inexact. even if they DO use a compass- a circle has infite corners, so in theory, the circle is not round...

I never said circle to be round.  

[Guest_deathlord12345]

Do I have to make everything I say or do so a four year old can understand?  A digital photograph is like a painting but instead of a person putting colorful stuff called paint onto a sheet of paper, a little box called a camera can see something and put exactly what it sees onto a computer.  A camera was on a flying machine that flew high into the air and took a picture.  Should I dumb it down some more?

This is not about putting something in a SIMPLE form. This is about facts.

For example, if you look at a circle far far away it looks like a dot. But when you come closer you realise it was a circle. So if you take picture of earth far far away, of course it looks round - but if you come closer... you realise there are mountains, hills, canyons etc. which ARE NOT IN ROUND FORM - they are pointy or something else. But earth definitely is NOT round.

Just keep it with the facts. And don't bring any more cloud pictures here, okay?

unfortunately, you do have a point. but when u realise that, you must realise this, when you take a slice out of the earth, there is a perfectly (more or less) spherical shape in the core of the earth. so if you do examine the metaphorical dot and find it to be a circle, you must look into it more and find it more squarey, because the drawer of the dot is inexact. even if they DO use a compass- a circle has infite corners, so in theory, the circle is not round...

I never said circle to be round.

the morale of the story was that you have to look at things in greater detail- so in theory, the pair of you are right,

[Follower of NP]

Do I have to make everything I say or do so a four year old can understand?  A digital photograph is like a painting but instead of a person putting colorful stuff called paint onto a sheet of paper, a little box called a camera can see something and put exactly what it sees onto a computer.  A camera was on a flying machine that flew high into the air and took a picture.  Should I dumb it down some more?

This is not about putting something in a SIMPLE form. This is about facts.

For example, if you look at a circle far far away it looks like a dot. But when you come closer you realise it was a circle. So if you take picture of earth far far away, of course it looks round - but if you come closer... you realise there are mountains, hills, canyons etc. which ARE NOT IN ROUND FORM - they are pointy or something else. But earth definitely is NOT round.

Just keep it with the facts. And don't bring any more cloud pictures here, okay?

unfortunately, you do have a point. but when u realise that, you must realise this, when you take a slice out of the earth, there is a perfectly (more or less) spherical shape in the core of the earth. so if you do examine the metaphorical dot and find it to be a circle, you must look into it more and find it more squarey, because the drawer of the dot is inexact. even if they DO use a compass- a circle has infite corners, so in theory, the circle is not round...

I never said circle to be round.

the morale of the story was that you have to look at things in greater detail- so in theory, the pair of you are right,

Yes - and that's why round picture of earth does not prove earth to be round. Earth is earth shaped as anti-conan kindly put.

[bengel]

"Earth is Earth shaped": this is not a good definition, because the definiandum (what must be defined) is given into the definians (what has to be defined) - and vice versa. One cannot define an apple by saying it is an apple   .  

[HerranRuoska]

"Earth is Earth shaped": this is not a good definition, because the definiandum (what must be defined) is given into the definians (what has to be defined) - and vice versa. One cannot define an apple by saying it is an apple   .

Earth is the shaipe NIILO hath kreated it. Aamen. This is a kood dephinition.

[bengel]

Thanks for your grand wisdom, Herran. Now I know that Niilo created the earth and gave it the shape of the earth. HE gave it its shape. Nice.

Niiloluja!

[deathlord12345]

"Earth is Earth shaped": this is not a good definition, because the definiandum (what must be defined) is given into the definians (what has to be defined) - and vice versa. One cannot define an apple by saying it is an apple  .

Earth is the shaipe NIILO hath kreated it. Aamen. This is a kood dephinition.

what a foolish thing to say, NP could not have possibly created the world- he admits it in his (or rather His) autobiography, saying that his FAMIlY is of noble DESCENT, being very close to the rank of BARON

so allow me to elaborate- in order to have a family, he must have parents, being that he is of noble DESCENT (meaning, down). being close to BARON and not anywhere near a god, he cannot have created the world. there are higher things than a baron, i.e Kings, monarchy in general etc


NP should brand you a witch- I doubt he will though. and Bengel- well said! although there is a complicated loophole to the statement- it gets cut short anyways...

[Follower of NP]

"Earth is Earth shaped": this is not a good definition, because the definiandum (what must be defined) is given into the definians (what has to be defined) - and vice versa. One cannot define an apple by saying it is an apple   .

To me a definition of apple is the most exact one you CAN use. Everybody understands that.

Besides - you cannot define definition by using that sentence - because that contains definians!