Ridiculous

[Illuminatus]

The Adam theory is interesting... except for the masturbation bit... ew.  

[Stools]

Actually, marriage DID exist. God outlined the basic idea for what marriage is when he made Eve.

[bengel]

To each is own, then.

What do you mean exactly Stools?

[Follower of NP]

You might have noticed several "followers" of Niilo on this board, like "Piously Aligned", "Anti-Conan", "Snake of Christ", ..., and especially "HerranRuoska". Don't be fooled by these nicknames, they are all one person, Niilo Paasivirta. Due to his mental illness, of which he is a victim and we must respect this, he divides his extreme ideas over several "personalities" with their own style of writing and knowledge of the English language. This is a typical pattern of behaviour of people suffering from multiple personality disorder with a strong touch of megalomania, especially when these people don't receive the proper treatment. Niilo is such an unfortunate victim of circumstances.

Pardon? That's quite false.

You might not be aware that there's a private forum for NP followers and yes we talk there together. Why the heck would Niilo create several nicknames and a private forum and talk to himself???

Illuminati, word of warning: These forums are supposed to be about christian talk and discuss how RPG could be prevented - but it seems that more and more people come here to insult people and telling lies (like mr. bengel here)

But regardless, I'll individually kick each one of his little personas' asses one by one if I have to.

That's another example. Niilo never ever wants to kick nor hurt people (of course spanking is not hurting, it's cleaning the demons out of the person). But more and more people want that.

if a religious megalomaniac person were to spread his ideas here in Belgium (where I live), he would be immediately diagnosed as mentally ill.

My god...? I guess you don't have lots of churches nor other places of religion in Belgium, but lots of mental institutes? I bet not many bishops would like to be there (as they would tell you "how there's life after death" - these kinds of speeches might NOt sound sensible!)

He would receive proper treatment and, in worse cases, be taken out of society and put inside an asylum.

May I ask why?

However, if the same person were born, raised and preached his ideas in a more secluded region, f.e. the icy Finnish "jungle", and/or in a region in which people live under bad circumstances which make them socially vulnerable and open to religion, he might actually be believed by some of these people and be allowed to start his own cult or denomination.

What do you mean by the icy Finnish jungle? We don't have polar bears here. Polar beer at tops.

Given the right contacts with the right powerfull people, he might even become an important member of that society, f.e. he could have the opportunity to start a real organized religion with thousands of followers, all paid for by taxpayers' money.

Ever heard a guy called George Bush? People pay him millions of dollars per year to launch rockets to countries with names hard to pronounce.

[bengel]

Pardon? That's quite false.

You might not be aware that there's a private forum for NP followers and yes we talk there together. Why the heck would Niilo create several nicknames and a private forum and talk to himself???

I didn't pose it as a fact, but as a personal observation and suspicion. Quite frankly, I don't care who is who on this message board anymore. The distinction between followers of Np and non followers is all I need to know. Besides, I also said on this thread that I believe that Niilo has indeed real followers. This is also an observation and suspicion of mine. From now on, I will once again refer to everyone here in the guestbook by his or her nickname.

Yes, I do know that there's a private forum for followers of Niilo on this message board. I believe its called "correct opinions". Let me say this: all opinions are interpretations of a personal or collective nature. When an opinion is proved to be "correct", it is no longer called an opinion, but a fact.

That's another example. Niilo never ever wants to kick nor hurt people (of course spanking is not hurting, it's cleaning the demons out of the person). But more and more people want that.

Nor do I. And the example you refer to was not written by me.

My god...? I guess you don't have lots of churches nor other places of religion in Belgium, but lots of mental institutes? I bet not many bishops would like to be there (as they would tell you "how there's life after death" - these kinds of speeches might NOt sound sensible!)

In fact, every little village in Belgium has at least one (Catholic) church. My argument was directed towards extreme religious fanatic individuals who think that they are a "new prophet" or a "new Messiah", but who in fact suffer from mental disorders.
If these people act violently and hurt other people (like even Niilo, as you claim, would never want to do), then they pose a threat to the psychological and physical integrity of other people and are being taken out of our society and placed within a mental hospital or asylum, where they will be given the proper treatment they need.

What do you mean by the icy Finnish jungle? We don't have polar bears here. Polar beer at tops.

I must apologize for that expression, I couldn't find a decent English term for it, therefore I used the word "jungle" but placed it between " ".

Ever heard a guy called George Bush? People pay him millions of dollars per year to launch rockets to countries with names hard to pronounce.

Yes, I have. And I couldn't agree more.  

[Niilo Paasivirta]

Yes, I do know that there's a private forum for followers of Niilo on this message board. I believe its called "correct opinions". Let me say this: all opinions are interpretations of a personal or collective nature. When an opinion is proved to be "correct", it is no longer called an opinion, but a fact.

Good. Finally you start to admit that my "opinions" are in fact correct ones, that is, facts!

[Random Hero]

Good. Finally you start to admit that my "opinions" are in fact correct ones, that is, facts!

Actually, you're twisting his words. He was merely stating the distinction between an opinion and a correct opinion which is known as a fact. But, since you cannot have a correct opinion without being a fact, and we know that much of what you say is not fact, we can say you are a liar. Thus concluding that you are also an idiot.  

[bengel]

Thanks, Random Hero!

This is for you Np:


Hey look Np, a pigeon just flew over your head. What are you gonna do now?



Ow, I see. Well, have a nice meal!      

[Niilo Paasivirta]

Actually, you're twisting his words. He was merely stating the distinction between an opinion and a correct opinion which is known as a fact. But, since you cannot have a correct opinion without being a fact, and we know that much of what you say is not fact, we can say you are a liar. Thus concluding that you are also an idiot.

Yet you couldn't present even ONE of my correct opinions that also is not a fact. You only had ad hominem arguments.

[Random Hero]

Well, if you want it that way.. The Devil and daemons are not big and red, hairy beasts with pitchforks and forked tails. The Devil was the brightest/most beautiful of the angels (L)ucifer and the closest to God. He was merely God's favorite angel. When God turned his attention and love from the angels and gave it to Humanity, (L)ucifer was outraged because he wanted God to love them uniquely. He then led a revolt with 1/3 of the angels in Heaven out of pure LOVE and DEVOTION to being God's beloved servant. In other words, if he couldn't have God's love, no one would. The Devil and daemons are merely fallen angels and are basically the exact same as any other "good" angel, except people speculate them having blackened wings.

There, I have proven one of your Correct Opinions false. Didn't even have to be in your personal forum, because everything you say anywhere has to be correct, right?? Now you are left in the cold with only your ad hominem bullcrap to save you. Oh yes, and my first post was only ad hominem towards the end. Have a nice day misusing the phrase.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

The Devil and daemons are merely fallen angels and are basically the exact same as any other "good" angel, except people speculate them having blackened wings.

No, they are not "merely fallen angels". They are also traitors and rebels, and they work against God.

There, I have proven one of your Correct Opinions false.

No, you just showed you didn't know much about this subject.

[Random Hero]

No, they are not "merely fallen angels". They are also traitors and rebels, and they work against God.

No, you just showed you didn't know much about this subject.

Yes, they are just merely fallen angels. Why?? Because they led a revolt because they wanted God to love the angels singularly instead of putting more love into humanity being his reflection. They aren't working against God but humanity itself to show God how easily we are supposedly corrupted. There you go again, NP. You haven't been able to prove one thing I say wrong or otherwise.  

[Niilo Paasivirta]

Yes, they are just merely fallen angels. Why?? Because they led a revolt because they wanted God to love the angels singularly instead of putting more love into humanity being his reflection. They aren't working against God but humanity itself to show God how easily we are supposedly corrupted.

Lucifer indeed was originally a mighty angel. His job was to guard the throne of God. He was the covering cherub (Ezekiel 28:14), the highest position in heaven under God.

But Lucifer was filled with pride. He thought he could be like God, and rule the universe (Isaiah 14:13-14). In his insanity. Lucifer tried to raise an army in heaven by conning angels into joining him in a take-over plot.

A multitude of angels joined Lucifer. This was the worst mistake they ever made (Revelation 12:4 & 9). The Word (God, the Son) who will judge nations and every soul who will ever live (John 5:22) found lucifer and his rebellious angels guilty of treason. "Thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee ... I will cast thee to the ground." (Ezek. 28:16-17).

The Word of God, Lucifer's deadliest enemy, had sealed his fate. Lucifer knew his final destination would be in the lake of fire with his fallen angels (Matthew 25:41).

God changed Lucifer's name to santa, and he and his rebellious angels were thrown out of heaven, down to the planet earth; when it was without form and void (Genesis 1:2). santa and his fallen angels ended up in the atmosphere surrounding the planet. One of santa's titlesis the Prince of the Power of the air (Ephesias 2:2b). He believed the planed Earth was his.

santa was furious because God had created Adam and put him in control of the earth (Genesis 1:26-28). santa knew if he could make Adam sin, santa would gain control and destroy mankind which he despises. And he succeeded. He became the master, santa's new title was "the god of this world" (John 12:31, 2 Corinthias 4:4). santa's army of fallen angels became demonic forces under his command to destroy mankind through wars, famine, disease, etc (1 Peter 5:.

santa will be cast into the lake of fire and the untold millions who believed santa's lies join him (Rev. 20:10-15). If you claim santa works for God, you are one of these souls who will be cast into the lake of fire!
 

[bengel]

If your opinions are indeed correct, Then please explain to me why the flag of death and the flag of Nazi Germany are waving over your "correct opinions" webpage?


http://www.ilmatar.net/~np/opinions/index.shtml

[Piously Aligned]

What do you mean by the icy Finnish jungle? We don't have polar bears here.

I think you should reread The Foreigner's Guide to Finland. The polar bears roaming around is bad. The girls never keeping their clothes on is horrible!