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« on: October 02, 2004, 05:58:35 AM »

Allright I think that this could be an interesting arguement. So are you a non christian who is tired of the ignorant fascism of christianity or are you a christian who hates all who don't conform to christianity?
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2004, 04:09:48 PM »

Depends upon what you call a 'christian'.

Take me for example;

Q; Do I go to church?
A; No I don't, so that must make me a non-christian and therefore evil.

Q; Do I play role-playing games?
A; Yes, It's something I enjoy doing for a few hour a week, so that must also mean I'm evil.

Q; Do I worship the devil or any other demonic figures?
A; No, absolutely not. I think that the devil and hell are old wives tales best left in literature and movies such as The Omen, or Dante's Divine Comedy. That must make me a little less evil.

Q; Would I help somebody in need if I were able to, regardless of colour or creed?
A; Absolutely, yes! If it were in my power to help somebody then I'd help them as much as I could and hope that they would feel equally inclined to do the same for me.
Now if I'm an evil non-church going, role-playing non- christian, why would I help somebody?

Q; Am I homophobic?
A; No, live and let live I say. I don't actually have any immediate Homosexual friends but I have been introduced to Homosexual couples through mutual aquaintances and I have gotten along with them just fine. So does that make me more evil, or more christian-like for being more tolerant?

So, np, What do you think? am I an evil person or a good person?

As far as I'm concerned I live my life and try to be the best person that I know how to be.
Surely, when we strip away all the hypocracy of religion, that, more than anything else, should be what being a christian is all about?  

So, what do you say np? Am I a christian or a non-christian?
 
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2004, 06:43:25 PM »

I agree with Mandragon, it's the same for me as well...
I don't think that quoting the bible, damning everything and preaching "The End is Nigh!!!!" is really christian, and surely intolerance is not christian, nor is discrimination.
Mandragon, a non-christian, would help a person, or animal in need, regardless of colour, or background without hesistation.
On the other side, Niilo( and his followers) would only help a true christian, if he was white, Arian( in niilo's words Atlantean descendant), and agreed to everything he said. The rest may burn in hell forevermore...
So, what do you prefer to be? Non-christian, or Niilo-Christian?
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2004, 07:36:21 PM »

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are you a christian who hates all who don't conform to christianity?
Good christians do not hate anyone, but show brothery love for each other - which includes doing our best to protect their immortal souls from all the evil and sin that can lead them to eternal damnation!

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2004, 04:55:25 PM »

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Even if that includes denouncing them, prejudicing them, discriminating them, damning them, insulting them, putting them down, excluding them, dissaccioation from them and putting the blame of everything wrong with the world on them?
That's only for their own good.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2004, 07:04:15 PM »

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Even if that includes denouncing them, prejudicing them, discriminating them, damning them, insulting them, putting them down, excluding them, dissaccioation from them and putting the blame of everything wrong with the world on them?
That's only for their own good.
How in a mordern civillized world could such oppresive attitudes towards an individual possibly be for that person's 'own good'?

After all, if the biggest crime in the world today was that somebody didn't believe in god, then I for one believe that the world would be a much better place.

As it is, the world is full of real crime and it is these perpetrators who need to be ostracised from society, not somebody whose religious outlook differs from somebody else's.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2004, 09:51:36 PM »

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How in a mordern civillized world could such oppresive attitudes towards an individual possibly be for that person's 'own good'?
Hell is much more oppressive. It doesn't really matter how badly an individual is treated in his life as long as he avoids Hell, because Hell is always worse and, unlike life, eternal. This is nothing but a logical conclusion.

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After all, if the biggest crime in the world today was that somebody didn't believe in god, then I for one believe that the world would be a much better place.
But it is, isn't it?

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As it is, the world is full of real crime and it is these perpetrators who need to be ostracised from society, not somebody whose religious outlook differs from somebody else's.
Yes, but that doesn't really matter, as those people are all going to Hell unless they repent.

You are using too much common sense. Read more Bible and pray. It will make you all happy and you'll see everybody gets what they deserve. It's just reasonable you have to believe in, love and obey your Creator, who in His great wisdom gave you free will with the ability to reason. If you don't, He'll throw you in Hell. That's what He has sent us to help you avoid.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2004, 10:40:11 PM »

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You are using too much common sense.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2004, 10:03:33 AM »

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You are using too much common sense.
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Read one sentence more: *Read more Bible and pray. *
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2004, 04:17:54 PM »

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it was only asking if you were a non christian that's tired of the ignorant fascism of christianity or if you were a christian who hates all who don't conform to christianity to stir up an arguement.
But as you know, good Christians love everyone except the Lord of Hell, and hate nothing except sin.

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2004, 10:35:58 PM »

Look I am tieard of all this. The world would be alot better off if we didn't hve these twits telling us witch way to pee. I say that we should just end hs argumemnt becuse of thhese resons. One. over pyscotic cristians will never stop trying to derail evrthing they don't like, and two, were too head strong to be pushed around. This i madness. I hate looking threw the net on rpgs and finding that acording to some crack pot that I am going to hell for something that he thinks I did. Gueass what cristian world, WE "PAGANS" AS YOU CALL US ARN'T santa WORSHIPERS." So why don't  you take your homophobic, anti semetic, anti feminist, anti evrytthing conspirsy theorys and blowem out your ass
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