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[Anonymous Hero]

I made myself what?

So in your point view it is so that when a person stands for the rights of certain group of society and defends their rights in discusion, it makes him/her the spokesperson of the whole group??? Geeh, that gives a new defination for the word spokesperson...

Then stop speaking on their behalf.

How can I be the spokesperson of the whole Homosexual/lesbian community when some the things I stand for are complete different from what other homosexual people may think. For instance, many homosexual people are religous, while I am not... far from that.

My question exactly. And yes, we all know that you are far away from being a good, God fearing christian. We shall pray for you.

But the liberty you took to speak on behalf of everyone, while knowing that there are lots of people disargeeing with your statement, is rather arrogant!

And you criticizing other people's views, sexual fantasies and whatnot, calling them sick, pervert, disgusting etc. isn't a bit arrogant aswell?  
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that you can judge and censor it, just like you've done with NP's site!
 

[Yani the Lesbian]

Then stop speaking on their behalf.

That is simple, because I never spoke on thier behalf.... I speak for myself only... me as none-believing, lesbian woman... with my rights and my opinions!

And yes, we all know that you are far away from being a good, God fearing christian. We shall pray for you.

Please don't. In your other message you placed in the Guestbook forum, you showed exactly who and what you are.... Prayers of that kind people are not needed, ergo: I don't want them!

And you criticizing other people's views, sexual fantasies and whatnot, calling them sick, pervert, disgusting etc. isn't a bit arrogant aswell?

If that includes turning women into sex-objects or spanking children, then is only there is nothing arrogant about it to disapprove of it.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that you can judge and censor it, just like you've done with NP's site!

If that person discriminates, setup people up to hate, spreads hatred and tells lies... then every normal thinking human being should act against it... In a lot of European countries is even nothing more then obbeying the law


 

[Anonymous Hero]

That is simple, because I never spoke on thier behalf.... I speak for myself only... me as none-believing, lesbian woman... with my rights and my opinions!

Dwelling in that kind of denial, it's a small miracle you got out of the closet in the first place.

If that includes turning women into sex-objects or spanking children, then is only there is nothing arrogant about it to disapprove of it.

"Turning women into sex-objects" is something women came up with themselves because they have hard time dealing with being desired by someone who they don't feel attracted to. Of course there are these voeyristic types who like to send people pictures of them playing with the washing machine (thanks ).

If that person discriminates, setup people up to hate, spreads hatred and tells lies... then every normal thinking human being should act against it... In a lot of European countries is even nothing more then obbeying the law

And you are spreading hatred towards the person. Why haven't they censored most christian publications, for example? Because they tell the truth! And handling the truth is what's eating you. Besides the her, that is.

 

[LichGoat]

Of course there are these voeyristic types who like to send people pictures of them playing with the washing machine (thanks )

That's (the f-word) up! I am still waiting for mine!

So brother-man... is it any good?

[Yani the Lesbian]

Dwelling in that kind of denial, it's a small miracle you got out of the closet in the first place

Ah, there is our Godfearing man again.... and concerning dwelling in denial, I think you with your ... lets put it friendly... rather twisted mind must surely an expert on that matter. Just read some of your other messages how you base your opinion on assumptions you have no proof or even reason to assume... and that all of course in the name of your precious lord...  Talking about dwelling in denial...

"Turning women into sex-objects" is something women came up with themselves because they have hard time dealing with being desired by someone who they don't feel attracted to.

Ahh... there we have that typical male-argument again! Of course you blame all the women who been raped that it was there own fault? And that rape in marriage even doesn't exsist? Because that are the arguments that mostly go along with that kind of remark...

And of course it also the fault of women that all those lil silly males spend enormus amounts of money on porn-websites and porn-magazines...

And you are spreading hatred towards the person. Why haven't they censored most christian publications, for example? Because they tell the truth! And handling the truth is what's eating you.

You dare even to take a word a truth in your mouth? After all spreading of assumptions you did and still are doing?

You know why most Christian sites are not "closed down", because they talk just about their religion. They don't talk about people of other races as being inferiour.... they don't tell lies about homosexuals... They don't setup to hatred against other religions....
Someone said once to me "As person I cannot agree with homosexuality, but that doesn't mean I must hate you". There are wise people among those who believe...

Yes, of course there are many hate-sites (religous or not) located in the US. Another consequence of "their" Freedom of Speech without understanding what kind of responsibility comes along with that.... and then you get that kind of crap.




 

[Anonymous Hero]

Ah, there is our Godfearing man again.... and concerning dwelling in denial, I think you with your ... lets put it friendly... rather twisted mind must surely an expert on that matter. Just read some of your other messages how you base your opinion on assumptions you have no proof or even reason to assume... and that all of course in the name of your precious lord...  Talking about dwelling in denial...

You call it denial, I call it God's Truth!

Ahh... there we have that typical male-argument again! Of course you blame all the women who been raped that it was there own fault? And that rape in marriage even doesn't exsist? Because that are the arguments that mostly go along with that kind of remark...

There's that typical female argument again! Of course you blame the men for raping the women who tried to use their sex-appeal to gain power, but it backfired and they got raped. Those Whores Of Babylon got what they deserved. Every inch of it.

And of course it also the fault of women that all those lil silly males spend enormus amounts of money on porn-websites and porn-magazines...

This is yet another typical feminist lesbian argument. Since you don't need men in bed, you must discredit them out of existence on every level. Besides, only idiots pay for porn. There is plenty of free porn sites. I've only seen the christian ones, of course.

You dare even to take a word a truth in your mouth? After all spreading of assumptions you did and still are doing?

I take what into my mouth? Don't confuse me with the sinful people of the Homosexual community, please.

You know why most Christian sites are not "closed down", because they talk just about their religion. They don't talk about people of other races as being inferiour.... they don't tell lies about homosexuals... They don't setup to hatred against other religions....

Those are not true christian sites. The bible says that other religions are not ok. Neither is homosexuality.

Someone said once to me "As person I cannot agree with homosexuality, but that doesn't mean I must hate you". There are wise people among those who believe...

I know that there are wise people among those who believe, but you wouldn't know anything about it! With they way you moralize and censor people, spreading hate towards those with different opinions, it is obvious you don't know any True Christians(with correct opinions) at all!

Yes, of course there are many hate-sites (religous or not) located in the US. Another consequence of "their" Freedom of Speech without understanding what kind of responsibility comes along with that.... and then you get that kind of crap.

And now you have to drag the United States into this aswell? It is the United State's fault that there are people like you with their hate-spreading sites? Get real.
 

[-wyvern]

By definition there is no such thing as a Correct or Incorrect opinion. And if you look closely, the statement "As person I cannot agree with homosexuality, but that doesn't mean I must hate you" is actually against hatred, and thus makes your point that this person was "spreading hate towards those with different opinions" is invalid, unless I misunderstood.

[Yani the Lesbian]

You call it denial, I call it God's Truth!

Hmm... interesting. So you call your false and fake assumptions God's Truth.... So that means God's Truth is a lie? Wooo....

There's that typical female argument again! Of course you blame the men for raping the women who tried to use their sex-appeal to gain power, but it backfired and they got raped. Those Whores Of Babylon got what they deserved. Every inch of it.

Males used their sex-appeal to gain power? Just as that 17 year old girl who was hold by two guys of 20 while a third raped her? They should castrate all three of them with a very blunt knife...

There is no excuse to force someone to sex... NEVER!

This is yet another typical feminist lesbian argument. Since you don't need men in bed, you must discredit them out of existence on every level.

Another false assumption.... As stated earlier I have a lot of male friends, but at least they accept me for what I am...

There is plenty of free porn sites. I've only seen the christian ones, of course.

*laughs*
Christian porn sites??? And what are those? Where nuns are stripping?

Those are not true christian sites. The bible says that other religions are not ok.

Nice contradiction there. Those "other christians" hold the same bible... means your "True Christians' is also not okay... because thier bible (which is the same as yours) say that. That means no religous is okay!

know that there are wise people among those who believe, but you wouldn't know anything about it! With they way you moralize and censor people, spreading hate towards those with different opinions

Hmmm... I don't hate people with blaised opinions and so negative thoughts about fellow humans, I pitty them...

it is obvious you don't know any True Christians(with correct opinions) at all!

Well, if NP and you are examples of True Christians (with whatever opinions), then I am very glad I only met real Christians.

And now you have to drag the United States into this aswell? It is the United State's fault that there are people like you with their hate-spreading sites? Get real.

*chuckles*
Said the person who defends the owner of a hate-site! Maybe you should get real...

Apart the unhuman remark you made about rape, you were a good laugh again...






 

[-wyvern]

Anyone who condones rape on any pretext should bear it in mind that in the bible the punishment for rape was ALLWAYS death. If those laws were made by god's authority, then how can any of you (stares vividly at hero) who hold holy works in such high regard say otherwise?

[Yani the Lesbian]

Anyone who condones rape on any pretext should bear it in mind that in the bible the punishment for rape was ALLWAYS death. If those laws were made by god's authority, then how can any of you (stares vividly at hero) who hold holy works in such high regard say otherwise?

Very true words...

Only I don't believe the death penalty.... But for rapists? Castration should be a vivid option...

 

[anti-conan]

When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, and seeth among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; and she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and remain in thine house(Deuteronomy 21:10-14)

I'm sure, that when anonymous hero talks about rape, he get his opinion from the above wise words.

But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: but shalt utterly destroy them" (Deuteronomy 20:16-17)

generally christians are not supposed to work in a peacefull way, as it does not suit God as the bible tells us with it's many exiting and wise historical correct stories.

[LichGoat]

When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, and seeth among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; and she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and remain in thine house(Deuteronomy 21:10-14)

I'm sure, that when anonymous hero talks about rape, he get his opinion from the above wise words.

That's not talking about rape. It's talking about integrating captive women into a tribe by marriage, quite the custom of biblical times up to the 18th century.

But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: but shalt utterly destroy them" (Deuteronomy 20:16-17)

generally christians are not supposed to work in a peacefull way, as it does not suit God as the bible tells us with it's many exiting and wise historical correct stories.

Generally, Christians follow the New Testament... which starts with the birth of Christ... hence, Christians. Deuteronomy being from the Old Testament is more a staple to Muslim and Jewish faith. Funny thing about all three religions is they start to split on interpretations of who Christ was, but intitally, were all the same... the irony of it all.

Besides, any monkey can quote a particular Biblical verse to serve an arguement, and if one was do so it would not only be wise to study the variety of religions, but it would serve better to read the whole of religious works, and not a self-serving piece.

[-wyvern]

Laughter.

Did Jesus ever lift a finger against a living thing? Ever? Did he not heal one of his captors during the final days when paul struck out to defend him? Did he not ride into galelei at palm sunday on a donkey, rather than a charger? Did he not advocate peace, rather than raising a rebellion against the romans? Did he not speak to and try to befriend his oppressors? Did he not accept saul when he still was a man bent on eradicating christianity for good? Are we not part of a faith that teaches forgiveness and understanding, rather than meaningless bloodshed?

God does not move into wars lightly. Violence is the way of man.

If the passage you quote IS in deutronomy, I will rethink my position as someone who sees the bible as having general accord with itself, allowing for time and transit into different languages. Was the third commandment "Thou shalt not covet thy neibour's wife"? Deutronomy must have forgotten that. The bible is truly a confused and contradictory narrative. It is a shame. So much has been altered and lost in translation, my only hope is that when it was originally written it was good enough to base a life around.

[-wyvern]

I'll have to look into this deutronomy character... To be honest, I don't read the bible often enough to argue about it's technicalities. Sorry lichgoat, I was laughing at anticonan.

[anti-conan]

the bible is the words of God.

when a man marriages a woman, they mate.

when it is against the will of the woman, as in this case, it is called rape.