You My Friend, Are A Maniac.

[Pathos]

Listing some other claims does still not prove your claim. So you admit you were wrong then.

When did Samurai ever admit that he was wrong? You seem to be very adept at avoiding the topic at hand so as to avoid the ridicule that would ensue as you were proved wrong. You have yet to answer Samurai's question,

Why should I have to prove mine if you can't prove your own?

You also have yet to address Samurai's post when he asked you to prove your views such as bathing being sinful, disliking sunlight being sinful, etc. Perhaps, if you would actually answer his questions, he might indulge you with answers to your questions.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

You and this "samurai" try to desperately avoid the fact that you haven't even tried to prove any of your claims. Nothing in your posts changes this. So, try to prove something.

[LostSamurai]

You desperatley try to avoid proving any of your claims. We, on the other hand, have proven our claims. Just because you tell us we haven't because you refuse to admit it doesn't mean anything. You once again have failed to address my post about proving to me that bathing is sinful, and disliking sunlight is sinful, and that laughter is sinful...and you say that we are the one's desperately avoiding the subject.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

You desperatley try to avoid proving any of your claims. We, on the other hand, have proven our claims

Which claims?

[LostSamurai]

I've told you what claims that I wanted you to prove to me. The claims that you made about laughter and bathing and disliking sunlight being sinful. I've told you twice already, and Pathos has told you once, and still you haven't even attempted to prove your claims.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

I've told you what claims that I wanted you to prove to me. The claims that you made about laughter and bathing and disliking sunlight being sinful. I've told you twice already, and Pathos has told you once, and still you haven't even attempted to prove your claims.

Most of those are proven in the Bible. Just read it.

Although this "disliking sunlight is sinful" sounds interesting. It is your claim? (Isn't mine...)

Now, prove your claims. Which is what this thread is about. Desperately trying to change the subject when you can't prove anything still does not prove anything.

[LostSamurai]

I've told you what claims that I wanted you to prove to me. The claims that you made about laughter and bathing and disliking sunlight being sinful. I've told you twice already, and Pathos has told you once, and still you haven't even attempted to prove your claims.

Most of those are proven in the Bible. Just read it.

Although this "disliking sunlight is sinful" sounds interesting. It is your claim? (Isn't mine...)

Now, prove your claims. Which is what this thread is about. Desperately trying to change the subject when you can't prove anything still does not prove anything.

No, disliking sunlight is your claim, thus telling you to prove to me YOUR claim about disliking sunlight being sinful.

I know that the bible says that sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.
But where in it does it say that laughing, in general, is sinful?
Also, tell me the verse that says bathing is sinful.
I have not been changing the subject, sorry you think that though.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

I've told you what claims that I wanted you to prove to me. The claims that you made about laughter and bathing and disliking sunlight being sinful. I've told you twice already, and Pathos has told you once, and still you haven't even attempted to prove your claims.

Most of those are proven in the Bible. Just read it.

Although this "disliking sunlight is sinful" sounds interesting. It is your claim? (Isn't mine...)

Now, prove your claims. Which is what this thread is about. Desperately trying to change the subject when you can't prove anything still does not prove anything.

No, disliking sunlight is your claim, thus telling you to prove to me YOUR claim about disliking sunlight being sinful.

No, "disliking sunlight is a SIN" is YOUR claim, which I already explained and proved.

I know that the bible says that sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.
But where in it does it say that laughing, in general, is sinful?
Also, tell me the verse that says bathing is sinful.
I have not been changing the subject, sorry you think that though.

"Bathing is sinful" is YOUR claim, which I already explained and proved.

Now you are moving to some "general laughing" - sounds like one of YOUR claims again.

You are constantly building straw man arguments. And your posts have no relevance to the subject of this thread.

[LostSamurai]

They are not my claims. If you do not wish them to be your claims then take them off of your page. I have made no straw man arguments in this thread.

When I say "laughing in general" I mean laughing just because you want to laugh. You say laughing in the joy of the Lord is the only way to laugh, but where in the bible does it say that you shouldn't laugh just because you want to.

You get angered and tell me that I twist words, yet you do the same.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

They are not my claims. If you do not wish them to be your claims then take them off of your page. I have made no straw man arguments in this thread.

Okay, specify, exactly, where exactly those claims are made. So far you have only listed citations where such claims are not made.

When I say "laughing in general" I mean laughing just because you want to laugh. You say laughing in the joy of the Lord is the only way to laugh, but where in the bible does it say that you shouldn't laugh just because you want to.

I already listed the verses.

You get angered and tell me that I twist words, yet you do the same.

I have never gotten angry while reading or writing on this board. If a True Christian gets angry, it is anger against the devil and anger against the sin - never against other people, not even at muslims or wicca witches!

[LostSamurai]

You listed no verses, all you did was tell me that it was in the Bible.

"Other Things for Children to Avoid"

Baths are very sinful!

It does go on to say that you should watch your children in the bath, but you did, in fact, call baths themselves sinful.

Your page doesn't have anything on it about laughter. I read it another thread on a post from someone in your congregation. If you didn't tell him that, I apologize. But if you did, that is where the laughter claim is made.

Sunlight-
"Is your child a ropelayer"

Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

If the child dislikes sunlight, then he or she falls into one of the four categories you specified, and being in one of those catergories, according to you, makes you a sinner.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

You listed no verses, all you did was tell me that it was in the Bible.

"Other Things for Children to Avoid"

Baths are very sinful!

It does go on to say that you should watch your children in the bath, but you did, in fact, call baths themselves sinful.

Exactly. It tells you WHY baths are sinful.

By the way, have you thought about a thing called "a bath"? 

Sunlight-
"Is your child a ropelayer"

Oh, so now you finally read what that list was about. 

Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

If the child dislikes sunlight, then he or she falls into one of the four categories you specified, and being in one of those catergories, according to you, makes you a sinner.

And according to you, the only valid reason for disliking sunlight is allergy or disease. So, do you think disliking sunlight is a sin except in those cases?

[LostSamurai]

You listed no verses, all you did was tell me that it was in the Bible.

"Other Things for Children to Avoid"

Baths are very sinful!

It does go on to say that you should watch your children in the bath, but you did, in fact, call baths themselves sinful.

Exactly. It tells you WHY baths are sinful.

By the way, have you thought about a thing called "a bath"? 

Sunlight-
"Is your child a ropelayer"

Oh, so now you finally read what that list was about. 

Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

If the child dislikes sunlight, then he or she falls into one of the four categories you specified, and being in one of those catergories, according to you, makes you a sinner.

And according to you, the only valid reason for disliking sunlight is allergy or disease. So, do you think disliking sunlight is a sin except in those cases?

But you still called baths sinful. And yes, I have thought of a thing called a bath. But it's still bathing.

I had always known what it's about. But do you not consider people in those categories to be sinners?

And no, I don't consider that to be the only reason for disliking sunlight. But I don't see why just not liking the sunlight is sinful.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

But you still called baths sinful. And yes, I have thought of a thing called a bath. But it's still bathing.

To find an argument against anything on my pages, you had to fabricate claims and now you have to prove that "bathing is bathing". Indeed, it seems to be very hard to find any real arguments...

I had always known what it's about. But do you not consider people in those categories to be sinners?

And no, I don't consider that to be the only reason for disliking sunlight. But I don't see why just not liking the sunlight is sinful.

In that case, perhaps you should again read the reason why disliking sunlight is on that list. It is said there.

[LostSamurai]

But you still called baths sinful. And yes, I have thought of a thing called a bath. But it's still bathing.

To find an argument against anything on my pages, you had to fabricate claims and now you have to prove that "bathing is bathing". Indeed, it seems to be very hard to find any real arguments...

I had always known what it's about. But do you not consider people in those categories to be sinners?

And no, I don't consider that to be the only reason for disliking sunlight. But I don't see why just not liking the sunlight is sinful.

In that case, perhaps you should again read the reason why disliking sunlight is on that list. It is said there.

show·er (n.)- A bath in which the water is sprayed on the bather in fine streams from a bathhead, usually secured overhead: take a bath.

You can't possibly believe that those are the only reasons children dislike sunlight.