Nillo, I would like to thank you...

[WeAreBroken]

This site has been the best amusement I've had in months.

I'm bi, I guess I'm going to hell over something I can't control :D:D I'll meet you there, alright?

You guys bash cults, but I was reading some forms, and they call you their leader. That seems a bit cultish, hmm?
Everyone who plays Dungeons and Dragons ends up drinking human blood? Rock music is music of the devil? Ice hockey is the sport of the devil? What isn't the devil? Anyone can twist things to make it sound evil. Hell, going to church can be evil...change the letters to roman numerals, divide by pi, change the numbers into letters, put it to rock music, whatever. Also, of course it's okay for a man to watch his wife have sex with another woman. It pleases him, so it's not wrong. If there isn't a man watching, yeeeeerr goin to hell! Hmm. If there is a god, dontcha think he would want each sex to be equal?

You and this stupid cult are crazy.

HOLY WATER! HOLY WATER! IM GOIN TO HELL xDD

[Niilo Paasivirta]

You guys bash cults, but I was reading some forms, and they call you their leader. That seems a bit cultish, hmm?

So when anti-christians claim something, you immediately believe it and worship it as the truth. Pages with scientifically proven facts, those are always false, according to you.

Everyone who plays Dungeons and Dragons ends up drinking human blood?

Now, if we follow your logic, you just admitted that they do.

Rock music is music of the devil? Ice hockey is the sport of the devil? What isn't the devil? Anyone can twist things to make it sound evil. Hell, going to church can be evil...

Yes, it can be, if the church is catholic, for example.

change the letters to roman numerals, divide by pi, change the numbers into letters, put it to rock music, whatever. Also, of course it's okay for a man to watch his wife have sex with another woman. It pleases him, so it's not wrong. If there isn't a man watching, yeeeeerr goin to hell! Hmm. If there is a god, dontcha think he would want each sex to be equal?

So, you have to read only a few words here and there, and desperately try to ignore the actual facts, so that you can make these claims.

You and this stupid cult are crazy.

Again, a brave courageous nickname dares to bravely call people crazy from behind a nickname. You must now feel very brave and proud!

[The_Cantor]

This site has been the best amusement I've had in months.

It's not meant for your amusement - amusing oneself is a sin - but it's meant to guide and direct you back to LORD.

I'm bi, I guess I'm going to hell over something I can't control :D:D I'll meet you there, alright?

That's something LORD will decide for you. But according to the bible, you will go to hell as a sinner unless you repent your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour and master.

You guys bash cults, but I was reading some forms, and they call you their leader. That seems a bit cultish, hmm?

Niilo is the starter of our church and our beloved leader, and what he teaches is truth. A cult does not teach truth, but only lies. Therefore this is not a cult. If you're unsure, just cross your hands, pray and ask for God, he will tell you that this is the truth as He told me too. LORD never lies to His servants.

Everyone who plays Dungeons and Dragons ends up drinking human blood? Rock music is music of the devil? Ice hockey is the sport of the devil? What isn't the devil?

Well for example a true christian marriage, such as those carried out in our church, is pure from the devil's deeds. Truly, the devil is present almost everywhere, and you must be very deeply religious to see throught his evil trickery. Only Lord Jesus Christ can protect you from evil.

Anyone can twist things to make it sound evil. Hell, going to church can be evil...change the letters to roman numerals, divide by pi, change the numbers into letters, put it to rock music, whatever.

Rock musick is a tool of the devil. Everyone listening to it shall surely be cast into hell, unless they repent their sins and abandon the rock musick.

Also, of course it's okay for a man to watch his wife have sex with another woman. It pleases him, so it's not wrong. If there isn't a man watching, yeeeeerr goin to hell! Hmm. If there is a god, dontcha think he would want each sex to be equal?

You really should read the Bible. God is not a communist, for example did He not create the woman equal to man, but created woman to serve man and bear his offspring. Concubines having (s-word) together without the husband is a sin because it's not meant to serve their husband. A wife's purpose is to serve his husband and nothing else.

You and this stupid cult are crazy.

Ad Hominem.

HOLY WATER! HOLY WATER! IM GOIN TO HELL xDD

Truly, your only hope to escape the neverending torture of hell is to become a reborn Christian, and let Jesus wash your sins away with His blood. I pray for your soul.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

Here's an old text which has been circulating especially in the Internet. Anyone can clearly see that our community is as far from a cult as possible! Atheists, however, are clearly a cult.



If the spiritual group with which you, or a loved one, are involved is characterized by 7 or more of the following 10 warning signs, it is probably a dangerous cult! You must take corrective action immediately! If you are a member, you must escape! Stop going to the meetings! Leave the compound! If your loved one is a member, you must do everything in your power to get your loved one out of the cult!

THE WARNING SIGNS:

1. The spiritual group claims to have received special instructions from one or more "messengers from the sky."
2. The spiritual group uses a special set of rules that you must obey or be cast out.
3. The spiritual group promises eternal life in a paradise if you obey its set of rules, and threatens eternal suffering if you do not obey its set of rules.
4. The spiritual group demands that you give up as much of your assests and your yearly income to it as possible.
5. The members of the spiritual group call each other "brother" and "sister," even when they aren't related at all.
6. The spiritual group is led by a group of enlightened masters who wear strange clothes and speak in esoteric parables.
7. The spiritual group demands that you accept its teachings without reservation, even when those teachings are in direct conflict with your understanding of basic scientific knowledge.
8. The spiritual group demands that you select your spouse and your closest friends from its membership.
9. The spiritual group demands that you place your children in its training program.
10. The spiritual group teaches that giving up your life for the sake of the spiritual group may become necessary sometime in the future.

Please take these warning signs seriously! If you, or a loved one, are in a dangerous cult, as determined by the above checklist, you must do everything you possibly can to remove the potential victim from that dangerous cult!



(In case it is actually necessary, I can show that NONE of those things apply to our organization of True Christians. But it's quite obvious already.)

[LostSamurai]

You guys bash cults, but I was reading some forms, and they call you their leader. That seems a bit cultish, hmm?

So when anti-christians claim something, you immediately believe it and worship it as the truth. Pages with scientifically proven facts, those are always false, according to you.

Everyone who plays Dungeons and Dragons ends up drinking human blood?

Now, if we follow your logic, you just admitted that they do.

Niilo, Niilo, Niilo...if you would only take the time to remember back to elementary school when we were taught that sentences ending with a "?" are not statements, but questions.  WeAreBroken never admitted anything. And how are the groups of people who call you their leader anti-christians? That doesn't seem to make sense.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

You guys bash cults, but I was reading some forms, and they call you their leader. That seems a bit cultish, hmm?

So when anti-christians claim something, you immediately believe it and worship it as the truth. Pages with scientifically proven facts, those are always false, according to you.

Everyone who plays Dungeons and Dragons ends up drinking human blood?

Now, if we follow your logic, you just admitted that they do.

Niilo, Niilo, Niilo...if you would only take the time to remember back to elementary school when we were taught that sentences ending with a "?" are not statements, but questions.  WeAreBroken never admitted anything. And how are the groups of people who call you their leader anti-christians? That doesn't seem to make sense.

Sorry, but it's not my job to make sense to WeAreBroken's claims. That was his claim. To which he didn't offer any kind of proof at all. So ask him.

[LostSamurai]

Quote from: WeAreBroken on January 29, 2008, 08:49:11 PM
You guys bash cults, but I was reading some forms, and they call you their leader. That seems a bit cultish, hmm?

(This is you speaking Niilo... Just in case you forgot) So when anti-christians claim something, you immediately believe it and worship it as the truth. Pages with scientifically proven facts, those are always false, according to you.

You called those groups of people anti-christians... not WeAreBroken. All WeAreBroken said was that it seems a bit cultish... Never directly calling them a cult... So them being anti-christian is your claim. Sorry... you lose again.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

Quote from: WeAreBroken on January 29, 2008, 08:49:11 PM
You guys bash cults, but I was reading some forms, and they call you their leader. That seems a bit cultish, hmm?

(This is you speaking Niilo... Just in case you forgot) So when anti-christians claim something, you immediately believe it and worship it as the truth. Pages with scientifically proven facts, those are always false, according to you.

You called those groups of people anti-christians... not WeAreBroken. All WeAreBroken said was that it seems a bit cultish... Never directly calling them a cult... So them being anti-christian is your claim.

Someone else says someone says something is someone's claim is my claim? Isn't that a bit far-fetched? But it's obvious that you have lost all discussions and need to desperately grasp at straws.

[LostSamurai]

What is it with you telling me I'm grasping at straws? You can't stand the fact that my intellect is far superior to yours, therefore you completely ignore everything I have written because you know I'm right. Then you begin saying that my so-called "house of cards" is falling, or I'm desperately "grasping at straws." It quite sad really...being as old and "wise" as you I had at least hoped you would give me a slight challenge rather than resorting back to elementary school tactics.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

So you don't have any arguments and you admit that you lost yet another discussion.