Obtaining more wives

[Niilo Paasivirta]

Recently there has been talk about NATO membership and EU troops from Finland. This opens some hope for those True Christians, which have had difficulties in obtaining their first wife.

Deut. 21:10-13:
10. When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11. And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12. Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13. And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

So, perhaps we start some day getting more EU directives that follow the Bible. At least NATO should take note of these verses - and why not, the president of USA, George W. Bush, is a good Christian. What could be better incentive for young men to strive for military career! Many of the very best Christians have also been great warriors and soldiers.

[American Girl]

“For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:24)
It says WIFE not WIVES.

Adam had ONE wife, he did not get more wives when there where more women.
Noah had ONE wife. His sons had ONE wife.
Abram and Nahor had ONE wife.
Lot had ONE wife.

Genesis 24:67 And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's [death].(KJV)

Again it says WIFE not WIVES.

Tell me Niilo, how many wives do the men in the New Testament have?

[Guest]

Recently there has been talk about NATO membership and EU troops from Finland. This opens some hope for those True Christians, which have had difficulties in obtaining their first wife.

Deut. 21:10-13:
10. When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11. And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12. Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13. And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

Look at your quotes. It says WIFE not WIVES. The United States is a civilized country with civilized people, we would NEVER go into another country and force their women to many our men. Only barbarians would do that.

[Guest]

Look at your quotes. It says WIFE not WIVES. The United States is a civilized country with civilized people, we would NEVER go into another country and force their women to many our men. Only barbarians would do that.

The U.S. soldiers don't marry them, they just spread AIDS in Iraq. Thus breaking the rules of the Bible.
 

[Niilo Paasivirta]

“For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:24)
It says WIFE not WIVES.

Adam had ONE wife, he did not get more wives when there where more women.
Noah had ONE wife. His sons had ONE wife.
Abram and Nahor had ONE wife.
Lot had ONE wife.

Genesis 24:67 And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's [death].(KJV)

Again it says WIFE not WIVES.

Tell me Niilo, how many wives do the men in the New Testament have?

Yes, one wife in that case. In case you didn't read my post, I suggested that the first wife could be obtained that way by True Christians who otherwise have difficulty in finding a wife. Of course it's only one wife because it's their first wife. Naturally you also read the Bible a bit further...?

Why New Testament only? (Of course there are many wives mentioned in there as well) Are you throwing away the Old Testament, with Ten Commandments etc.? That's not christianity at all. Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matt.5 1:17). Next you probably say we can use NEITHER of the Testaments.  

Gen.4 1:19 "And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah."
Gen.31 1:17 "Then Jacob rose up, and set his sons and his wives upon camels;
Gen.32 1:22 "And he rose up that night, and took his two wives, and his two womenservants, and his eleven sons, and passed over the ford Jabbok."
Gen.36 1.:2 "Esau took his wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and Aholibamah the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite;"
1.Sam 25:42-43 "And Abigail hasted, and arose, and rode upon an (lower back), with five damsels of hers that went after her; and she went after the messengers of David, and became his wife." / "David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives."
Col.3 2:19 "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them."

Look at those quotes. They say WIVES not WIFE.

[American Girl]

Yes, one wife in that case. In case you didn't read my post, I suggested that the first wife could be obtained that way by True Christians who otherwise have difficulty in finding a wife. Of course it's only one wife because it's their first wife. Naturally you also read the Bible a bit further...?

Why New Testament only? (Of course there are many wives mentioned in there as well) Are you throwing away the Old Testament, with Ten Commandments etc.? That's not christianity at all. Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matt.5 1:17). Next you probably say we can use NEITHER of the Testaments.  

Gen.4 1:19 "And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah."
Gen.31 1:17 "Then Jacob rose up, and set his sons and his wives upon camels;
Gen.32 1:22 "And he rose up that night, and took his two wives, and his two womenservants, and his eleven sons, and passed over the ford Jabbok."
Gen.36 1.:2 "Esau took his wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and Aholibamah the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite;"
1.Sam 25:42-43 "And Abigail hasted, and arose, and rode upon an (lower back), with five damsels of hers that went after her; and she went after the messengers of David, and became his wife." / "David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives."
Col.3 2:19 "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them."

Look at those quotes. They say WIVES not WIFE.

I said the New Testament because the New Testament is a revision of the old one. Show me where there are people with multiple wives in the New Testament.

Did any of those people marry those "wives?" Most of these men didn't even marry most of these women they just took them.

 

[Spear of Destiny]

Well, the New Testament is not actually a revision of the Old Testament, it is an addition to it.  The books of the Old Testament are considerably older than those of the New Testament, which were written after the time of Jesus, almost exclusively by the Pauline Church, wh went to considerable lengths to deify Jesus.  In fact, it would be true to say we can ascribe Jesus' position in modern religion almost exclusively to the efforts of the Pauline Church.
It is also a good idea to note that the Bible (old and new testaments) are not really one book, but a collection of books, written exclusive to eachother and brought together.  This is effectively the reason, one could postulate, for many of it's contradictions.
It's certainly true that the Bible does speak of certain individuals as having more than one wife, however, this is obviously not accepted nmost modern cultures - just like many things that are advocated in the Bible.
If one wishes to speak about inconsistencies between the Old and New testaments, then one has to really considert hat these are effectively two entirely seperate works (or mor to the point - two entirely seperate collections of works).  Indeed, so different are they that it is arguably accurate to say that the God portrayed in the Old Testament is by effect entirely different from that of the God portrayed inthe New Testament.  This is evident in such things as temperament and law.  The God of the Old Testament is an angry vengeful God, ready to smite those who disobey him, while the God of the New Testament is a forgiving God, full of love and willing to give redemtion to his followers.  In effect, the two Testaments were actually written by two different religions, the Old Testament is basically an exclusively Jewdaic document, while the New Testament is Christian.  Making comparrisons between one or the other is pretty fruitless, when you approach the matter from a standpoint of both being correct.  It is even more fruitless when approached from the angle that they are one book, because of course, they are not.  They have merely been combined into one volume, so to speak.  
By modern standards, if one were o consider the structure of the Bible, then the New Testament would effectively be a sequel.  But being as they are a collection, perhaps we should consider then closer to, say... the Star Wars Saga.  The first three films that were made would be the Old Testament, and the new films would be the New Testament which seems to in many ways rewrite the original story.

[HerranRuoska]

Yes, one wife in that case. In case you didn't read my post, I suggested that the first wife could be obtained that way by True Christians who otherwise have difficulty in finding a wife. Of course it's only one wife because it's their first wife. Naturally you also read the Bible a bit further...?

Why New Testament only? (Of course there are many wives mentioned in there as well) Are you throwing away the Old Testament, with Ten Commandments etc.? That's not christianity at all. Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matt.5 1:17). Next you probably say we can use NEITHER of the Testaments. 

Gen.4 1:19 "And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah."
Gen.31 1:17 "Then Jacob rose up, and set his sons and his wives upon camels;
Gen.32 1:22 "And he rose up that night, and took his two wives, and his two womenservants, and his eleven sons, and passed over the ford Jabbok."
Gen.36 1.:2 "Esau took his wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and Aholibamah the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite;"
1.Sam 25:42-43 "And Abigail hasted, and arose, and rode upon an (lower back), with five damsels of hers that went after her; and she went after the messengers of David, and became his wife." / "David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives."
Col.3 2:19 "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them."

Look at those quotes. They say WIVES not WIFE.

I said the New Testament because the New Testament is a revision of the old one. Show me where there are people with multiple wives in the New Testament.

Did any of those people marry those "wives?" Most of these men didn't even marry most of these women they just took them.

Tat is as it shuld pee ackording to te Pippel: A man taketh te woman hee wants. Tis is as Kodd ant NIILO want it to pee. All this womens lip talk is a Terriple sin. Ant it shouldpee Priohipited to speek apout  Womens Rights. Women, stocks and stones have no rightz.

[Niilo Paasivirta]

I said the New Testament because the New Testament is a revision of the old one. Show me where there are people with multiple wives in the New Testament.
 

It's definitely not a "revision"! And didn't you notice Col.3 2:19 "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them."?

Did any of those people marry those "wives?" Most of these men didn't even marry most of these women they just took them.

Of course they are married because they are called wives. If they weren't married, they would be called concubines. See the Bible. Concubines, different from wives, are mentioned dozens of times.

[American Girl]

It's definitely not a "revision"! And didn't you notice Col.3 2:19 "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them."?

Did any of those people marry those "wives?" Most of these men didn't even marry most of these women they just took them.

Of course they are married because they are called wives. If they weren't married, they would be called concubines. See the Bible. Concubines, different from wives, are mentioned dozens of times.

It says Husbands take your wives. Husbands is plural that means the person is addressing all the married men. Since Husband is plural wife becomes plural as well.

It is easy for a man to take a woman and say she is his wife but that does not mean they are married. I could go up to any man and say he is my husband but that doesn't mean we are married.

[HerranRuoska]

It's definitely not a "revision"! And didn't you notice Col.3 2:19 "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them."?

Did any of those people marry those "wives?" Most of these men didn't even marry most of these women they just took them.

Of course they are married because they are called wives. If they weren't married, they would be called concubines. See the Bible. Concubines, different from wives, are mentioned dozens of times.

It says Husbands take your wives. Husbands is plural that means the person is addressing all the married men. Since Husband is plural wife becomes plural as well.

It is easy for a man to take a woman and say she is his wife but that does not mean they are married. I could go up to any man and say he is my husband but that doesn't mean we are married.

You is WOOMAN noupaddy cares apout hwat you say. Putt if a MAN komez to yoo and say this is my wooman then you is his wooman and hee kan SLAY you if you say against. NIILOLUJAA

[American Girl]

You is WOOMAN noupaddy cares apout hwat you say. Putt if a MAN komez to yoo and say this is my wooman then you is his wooman and hee kan SLAY you if you say against.

Herran you live in an uncivilized world where barbarians still rule. In civilized countries (like America) women have rights, if they don't want to mary a man then they don't have to and there is nothing a man can do about it. Also in America if a man kills/ tries to kill a woman it is murder and they are thrown in prison.

[HerranRuoska]

You is WOOMAN noupaddy cares apout hwat you say. Putt if a MAN komez to yoo and say this is my wooman then you is his wooman and hee kan SLAY you if you say against.

Herran you live in an uncivilized world where barbarians still rule. In civilized countries (like America) women have rights, if they don't want to mary a man then they don't have to and there is nothing a man can do about it. Also in America if a man kills/ tries to kill a woman it is murder and they are thrown in prison.

Finlant is much moore sivilised than America. Finland iz Petter blace than Ameriga. Only Turd Wurld niggers want to go to Ameriga. Amerigans come to Finlant ant setle hiere petelgauze this is much petter gontry and we are a kreate White race. Niilolujaa.

[American Girl]

Finlant is much moore sivilised than America. Finland iz Petter blace than Ameriga. Only Turd Wurld niggers want to go to Ameriga. Amerigans come to Finlant ant setle hiere petelgauze this is much petter gontry and we are a kreate White race.

Really? You don't even know how to spell you own country and you refuse to adapt to modern times not to mention you have all the charm of a slug. Americans come to finland to take a vacation but that about it, sure some do go to live there but not many. There is nothing great about you herran, great men are not racist, great men are intelligent, great men are caring and good people, you are none of these.

[HerranRuoska]

Finlant is much moore sivilised than America. Finland iz Petter blace than Ameriga. Only Turd Wurld niggers want to go to Ameriga. Amerigans come to Finlant ant setle hiere petelgauze this is much petter gontry and we are a kreate White race.

Really? You don't even know how to spell you own country and you refuse to adapt to modern times not to mention you have all the charm of a slug. Americans come to finland to take a vacation but that about it, sure some do go to live there but not many. There is nothing great about you herran, great men are not racist, great men are intelligent, great men are caring and good people, you are none of these.

All Finnish man have Cellphone. All Finnish man has Internet. All Finnish man speak a Foreign language, enklish. Not all American peoble has cellphone. Not all american peoble has Internet. American no good at speaking Foreign language. Thus, Finland is more civiliset than Ameirica.